This gallery is used for testing AI tool, and will be deleted forever after understanding the skills.

该相册用于测试AI工具,掌握方法后会永久删除.

You can just exclude the 'ai generated' tag from your search if you want. You already have the power to chose what you see.

If you don't like AI generation, please use the following method:
goto: my home>my tag> in the textbox input "other:ai generated" > tick "hidden" > save

不喜欢AI绘图用如下方式屏蔽:
my home>my tag>空格输入[other:ai generated]>勾选>save

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This is generated by AI + PhotoShop, very poor quality, looks like e-waste.

If you wish better quality works, please ask Rindou(https://elii.cc/shbf) to complete Matai Toshi as soon as possible and please respect his original creation.

由AI + PS修的,质量差的电子垃圾.

如希望质量更好的作品请去找竜胆(https://elii.cc/shbf)催稿,并尊重他作为原画创意的付出.

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与其说AI模型重要,不如说反复编辑重要.

Rather than saying that the AI model is important, it is better to say that repeated editing is important

至于AI是否能取代画师,如果是我理解的那个乌烟瘴气的绘圈约稿,对大多数人画画来说多半是毁灭性的,毕竟画个傻逼头像要800,现在点点就有.

不过他们主营业务也不是画画,是挂人撕逼和卖课,能想象到之后应该会迎来主营业务的持续增长.

对外行来说还是很不错的。

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除了第十，十五张的小雪画的有明显的问题，其他的好像没什么

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輪到雪女的繪和龍膽的圖被看上了www

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This absolutely is AI generated, just edited to look better. AI really likes to take the term “slime” and transform body parts or the entire body besides the head into a color of slime. Very common. Also on page 24, a random tentacle penis is formed out of nothing, another thing the AI really likes to do.

Just here to stop misinformation on the internet. (Luckily misinformation and lying doesn’t exist on the internet, so my work is basically done)

Last edited on 03 March 2023, 14:29.

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抛开所谓的“剽窃画风”论点以外
AI作图最大的好处无疑就是弥补了许多遗憾
很多时候我希望某个画师来画某个角色··可是这几乎不可能实现··而AI就可以代替他/她
我觉得这点真的蛮好的

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好啊，只要不仔细纠结细节，其实ai也挺好的，毕竟有些图不用ai你永远也见不到

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好了，以后不需要竜胆了。

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龙胆这摸的要死的家伙不给他点压力不行，必须用ai狠狠的制裁他

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龙胆让你再摸😠

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想问你下AI的魔咒用的啥啊？？龙胆不出我都想自己产图了

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First 10 looks like Rindou-punopupu mix

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龙胆：6

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@tentacle_aaa: Rindou's had four years now to complete that manga and all we've gotten are breadcrumbs from his Twitter and Fantia pages. I don't think that pestering him to get it done will have much of an effect at this point.

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这AI确实把竜胆内味给跑出来了

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@Denojab Thanks for the reminder, I fixed 24.

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竜胆看了這個後應該真的會 嚇破竜胆 ............ ( 驚 )

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对于画师来说这还真的蛮悲哀的，自己钻研多年的绘画风格直接被ai使用者剽窃走了.....

emmmm

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好耶！龙胆摸鱼的代价！哼哼哼！

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The big advantage of AI: if you have multiple fetishes at the same time, you can have all of them together... Now, can we have some pink or blue hair please? Or some pixie cut hair? 🤣🤣🤣

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Disgusting

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You can also tell it's AI by the fucked-up fingers. I think there's like 6 on each hand in pic 44 lol.

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龙胆这厮，已经不是一般的刁民了，一定要出重拳才行！还请卡卡狠狠地对龙胆施以AI的制裁！

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虽然是AI，但龙胆确实是这画风，而且熟女太合我胃口了。所以龙胆不用再联系我了😂

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倒逼竜胆大師更新XD

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就是龙胆本人！

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龙胆两大买点就是画风和故事，现在画风有了快用ai催更故事！拖了n久的魔胎7！下水道！鲶鱼！

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Number one is a pretty decent Sayaka fanart. Others... debatable... Especially when any hands are visible. The AI seems incapable of handling Sakuya well, which might seem weird at first glance, until you realize that it has issues differentiating between her skin, her leotard, her gloves and her thigh-high boots.

That said, it's pretty obvious that all of these are AI generated with some edits in some cases, even without the pre-warning. Very little of it would pass muster, especially for Rindou fans that have been following their work for a long time.

More importantly though... this shows a lot about the terrifying and ultimately inevitable potential of this technology.

The official launch for this tech has been less than a year ago... and people can already use it for stuff like this. Give it another few years, and I wouldn't be shocked if people started making accurate artist based AIs. Consent wouldn't matter. It will take more than 4-5 years before legislation will be able to deal with this sort of thing... and it will have a massively hard time dealing with it, because realistically speaking, using AI to immitate an artist is no different than taking the time to train yourself to imitate an artist, just way faster and easier.

It's possible that the future for artists will be to train their own AIs to do the basics, and then use their skills to touch up the end result, fixing what the AI can't. That's something the average person that can't get their hands on an AI will never be able to achieve.

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我超，龙胆活都被ai抢了，不过这下有的冲了

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NovelAI画色图，chatGPT写小黄文，不听话还摸鱼的竜胆已经不需要了🥰

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龙胆你可以去s了，我们已经不需要你了，来♂黑井，我们一起创造新的魔胎都市吧！

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能看到竜胆紧身衣触手配上fate可真是太劲爆了

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给龙胆一点小小的AI震撼

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竜胆加上武内脸竟然这么和谐，冲了！

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Using Rindou's work as the source for AI generation is good, but could you add some other artists into the source for better variation of body parts?
Like Hellabunna, or other great artists as well, thus increase the amount of angles.

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幸好我是享受技术扩散的蛮夷

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如果能在配上產卵的橋段就更棒了呀🥵

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I'm ready. Give me my headset, strap me in, and subject me to hundreds of hours of this. I've waited too long for more Rindou and Ishimura content.

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龙胆又在摸鱼了，请圣上继续制裁他啊。

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再摸下去就要订阅AI辣 XD

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@ five and seven

绘画最重要的核心壁垒不是画风,版权著作权不保护画风.

Last edited on 09 April 2023, 17:40.

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挺好的，竜胆老师最近的作品都是只蹭蹭不进去，有点无聊

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some of the comments in this make me sad, ai will never replace traditional art to me, at least there's passion in the drawings made by actual artists, i don't care how long it takes for an artist to draw, i will keep supporting them in any way i can

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可以发一下关键词吗 我个人觉得这个ai画的还是很不错的

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我觉得ai就和3d模型、ps、sai一样都是辅助绘图的工具，它们的出现让画画更简单了，这是ao的。
但目前因为ai绘图出现的关于版权和低创的问题仍然需要观望，毕竟它是一个新诞生的工具，从来没有一开始就绝对完美的工具，每个成熟的标准都是在人和工具相互磨合的过程中摸索出来的，没人用那就更找不到标准和规则了。（当然了和现实存在的人有关的那种类似ai换脸什么的就完全不是一种性质的问题）
我讨厌ai低创，因为它确实把人的创意廉价化的这个过程非常直观地摆在我面前，ai比那些用笔画画的人产出多了很多很多倍，平均质量也有保证（虽然还是有不如意的地方，但例如po主这样亲自修改就能解决问题，这也有心血在里面的）。
对我而言，这种人被机器取代的恐惧是很容易理解的感情。国内的舆论形象上的那个所谓“绘圈”，大家也都知道，其实是一个偏感性的群体，对于这个过程必然是有很大摩擦的，这是大趋势下的小趋势。
未来各行各业都会有这样的摩擦，我们要充分认识到这一点，也应该做好准备，多学技能多学知识，才能在未来更好地保住那些被取代的技术。我们在这个加速变革的时代有义务告诉未来的人，这些技术被淘汰是因为时代的选择，而不是因为它们不好。在人类不再需要功利和效率，每一个人都可以自由地享受生产与劳动的时代，它们会在那一天再度焕发活力，而我们需要为那一天做准备，哪怕我们看不到成果，但这也是非常有意义的事情。
ai只是工具，它能代替那些廉价的工作，但任何工作到最后依然需要一个大活人在那里付出抽象劳动，这是任何形式的工具都改变不了的。
虽然p站上画得不好看的人大有人在，不过我也不想给他们画画的热情泼冷水，我觉得大家都是在进步的，有快有慢而已。
人的创意本来就没有什么价值标准，现在的地球有80亿人，恐怕现在创意本身就是一个廉价的东西。
因此不如说把它具现化的ai让有创意却无处发挥的人们绕过了技术这一门槛，让表达变得多元化，是大功一件。
我坚持优质的ai作品绝对没有反对和禁止的理由，让AI绘图的成果变得更好看这件事本身也是技术之一。

脑子bb完了，该牛子bb了。
这凛真涩啊，真的可以当龙胆的替代品，而且圆了我对于现在的武内老贼又摸鱼又不画涩图的遗憾，感谢po主🙏
赛博催工，老贼！

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我记得之前好像也有一篇AI图合集，也是龙胆画风，不知道大家有链接吗

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能不能多来点紧身衣少来点触手，另外，画个头像800的好似

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素材库用上画肛和丸吞的那个画师了吧

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确实，就比如紧身衣退魔师雪女被触手干到高潮这种图没有AI的话是永远也看不到的

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@Iexist @lavinia丶@196416 xhb

I don’t know if you see the underlying architecture of AI production, but If you want to completely replace Rindou's work, the drawing ability of the artists needs to be close to Rindou, including a extensive knowledge of sketching and human body. Most artists who painting tentacle artwork can't do at all, include AI user. If they have such high professionalism, it would be more appropriate for them to get offer in a big company.

For example, when Rindou is making translucent liquids, he will rule the highlights and translucency effects of the entire picture in a relatively comfortable range, instead of randomly 'brighten' them.
AI can't draw translucent liquids well yet and need manual modification.This is also very difficult for normal R-18 painters. You need to have a deep understanding of what you want to express.

不知道你是否了解AI制作的底层架构. 要想完全取代竜胆的作品,需要使用者的绘画能力接近竜胆,包括扎实的素描和人体结构功底.这是大多数画触手类R-18的画师做不到的,也包括AI的使用者.如果他们有这样的专业能力去大厂打工更合适.

比如竜胆在制作半透明液体的时候,会把整个画面的高光和半透明效果控制在一个比较舒服的范围内,而不是胡乱'点亮'. AI 还不能很好地绘制半透明液体, 需要人手工修正.这对于一般R-18画师也很困难. 你需要对你想要表达的东西有深刻的理解.

＠lxmedc @djkba
关键字起到的作用很有限，大多还是要靠手绘和不断图生图去修正．

＠big tree
目前素材库没有更新,混入太多其他的元素反而会有污染.
Diffusion model算法下的AI不能真正理解图层,神经网络的层级相对玄学,和图层完全不一样.

@trilobites
感谢你认真的评论.
目前AI绘画的起名,在'绘画'上有点误导,按照现在的算法来说,更合适的叫法是素材搜索合成包.
对于这种素材包的工作流有两种.

1.人辅助素材包作画
该工作流的特点是主体思想由素材包提供,人不修图,或者只辅助修理不满意的细节,不做框架性调整.
作画是指用读取素材包现有的东西,人脑基本不参与作画过程.
优势是出图很快,劣势是质量很差.
由于这个过程体现的人主观想法很弱.就算人工去修,也无法解决素材包在构图,主题性上的框架性问题.是造成审美疲劳的元凶,审美疲劳是因为没有审美.
举个例子来说,都是画触手色图,一个基本优秀的触手色图,是需要画面中的场景,触手,粘液,都提供向视觉中心的引导线,同时在视觉中心中被X的对象,从表情穿着到肢体动作,都能够体现被X的足够信息量.
但是大多数素材包直出图,会在和视觉中心无关的地方,莫名其妙加很多没有逻辑的细节,而在视觉中心的刻画却远远不够,就像一堆没有主次的华丽废话.
这个问题基本遍布目前大部分AI绘图,而且比手脚画的是否正确问题更大.属于路线错误,知识越多越反动.
有趣的地方在于,因为类似抽卡游戏,如果出了四肢正常而且构图也OK的,有种开SSR的感觉,会让人有不断点素材生成的成瘾性.

2.素材包作辅助人作画
该工作流的特点是主体思想由人提供,对于缺少的素材,以及繁琐的细节工作用素材包完成.
作画是指用人脑来绘制画面,素材包节省一点上色和细化的工作
优势是出图质量上限无限大,取决于使用者审美,劣势是出图慢,和现阶段其他转描工具比起来,生产力提升很有限.
比如:https://gplinks.co/yk4JJmHJ
能看到这个例子中最后产出的图片画面效果不错,但是从框架上初音的两根马尾的位置,已经决定了这个构图缺乏他想表达的降临感,上限是卡在了制作者的审美本身.
从他建模到最后出图也是大几十小时工作量.这个时间给科班出身的人工画师,也足够出图了.
这条路难走,付出的不会比练绘画少,相当于是比较硬核的技术美工的路线.

目前这两个工作流我都在尝试,开始的图都是1,最近出图都在向2做迁移,2确实难做.每张图都是在测试和练习不同的重绘方式,以及补手绘的知识,出图慢了很多.
我同样认可,让AI绘图的成果变得更好看,这件事本身也是技术之一,这个更好也确实需要花时间.

最后再说下关于侵权的事情,目前确实有画师去诉讼,但是画师的法律常识真的很糟糕.
从目前的他们提的诉讼材料来看,只能说勇气可嘉,但赢的可能性很小.
类似的案例可以看下Authors Guild, Inc. v. Google, Inc.2005年至2015搞了十年,最后美国法院判定谷歌图书馆中的作品利用属于合理使用,不构成侵权.
而且就算美国判了AI侵权,简中环境大概率也不会鸟.
包括美国版权局自己现在还在被打脸,由于人工智能生成内容处于飞速发展期,USCO的法案受到了国会和公众的请求,要求重新审查AI自动生成版权法的内容,并于4月19日、5月2日、5月17日、5月31日，分别召开针对AI自动生成文本、图片、音乐、视频等内容的保护法讨论大会(https://www.fapoff.com/BhvKC),这个会讨论完也并不代表具有立法的有效性。
按照民主的流程走,等这个事情有定论了,可能社会已经适应AI这种工具了.

Last edited on 04 May 2023, 17:25.

Base +12, Mr Fappa +6

Hey... When you do an update, could you add which pic are added ? Or what's the sorting order of this gallery ?

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